My brother-in-law expressed doubt whether or not Eight is canon. It made me so upset I felt a little bit silly.
The sexual tension between Alan and the Doctor in The Turing Test is just, off the fucking page like just fucking shag already, and im only about 10 pages in
Things people should do in The Turing Test: Greene should sort out his morality, Heller should get a grip and Turing and the Doctor should get a room.
I love that book so much. And it gets better. And sadder. Infinitely sadder, but it’s still so good. Turing’s internal monologues are so wonderful, especially when he goes on mathematical digressions to explain what emotions are like. And the Doctor! He’s so brilliant and unsettling and just unexplainable.
AU: Time Lords rule the universe and Daleks are freedom fighters. Alt!Eighth Doctor (though I wrote him without any voice reference except the one in my head, so I won’t blame you if you can’t tell) and Dalek companion.
2403 words, SFW.
Eight finds a kitten in his pocket.
This actually happens in the ”Vampire Science” novel,
(via arcadiaego)
The Eighth Doctor.
“I came back to life before your eyes. I held back death. Look, I can’t make your dream come true forever, but I can make it come true today.”
I’m really sorry to make a John Hurt related post in the Eighth tag but…
The Hurt Insert
From the newest Doctor Who comic from IDW, showing the last day of the Time War on Gallifrey.
via: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/08/16/john-hurt-reference-in-new-doctor-who-comic/
“If the Doctor has indeed seized the Moment -”
“He has rejected that name.”Implying that indeed, the John Hurt Doctor (“The name you choose, it’s like a promise you make. He’s the one who broke the promise.”) was indeed the regeneration who finished the Time War, not Eight.
Despite the fact that RTD wanted to give the Time War story to the Eight comics.
And… I just….
Am filled with too much rage to actually say anything more.
All is rage. Consuming me. From the inside out. On behalf of Eight.
As a major Eight fan all I have to say is……I don’t give a shit. Eight isn’t the time war to me. Eight is Charley Pollard and C’rizz and Lucie Miller and Molly O’Sullivan. He’s the divergent universe and zagreus and auntie pat and dark eyes and all that stuff. That is more important to who he is than a war we are never going to see in full.
Also who is to say how many Doctors actually fought in the time war I sure hell believe it’s more than just Eight and if we are talking about recent characterisation, of slowly breaking him and making him become the person who fight’s the war well…that still applies. Actually I think the fact that he desperately wants to not be like his seventh self and ends up regenerating into someone even worse is damn tragic.
On a side note I don’t care what Russell intended for the time war after the end of time because he was clearly just making things up as he went along. The only reason he initially came up with the time war was to get rid of the time lords.
I agree. Canon changes - in a show as long-running as Doctor Who, that is inevitable. I don’t see how RTD’s writing is any more sacred than anyone else’s, and he only intended to show the Eight to Nine regeneration. In my book, intentions do not count as canon. Also, there is no attempt in any of this to decanonise Eight. Eight flitted past in The Name of the Doctor (probably not sampled from the film as I suppose the BBC doesn’t have the full rights to it - I’ve read that they used a stand-in in similar clothes), and likenesses of him have been shown on multiple occasions, most recently in Nightmare in Silver, which was the episode before that, so obviously he’s not being erased. In addition to that, Moffat has said positive things about Eight several times, so although we might have plenty to worry about in his writing, erasing Eight is not among them.
I quite like the idea that Eight did fight in the Time War, and there is nothing in what we know about the Hurt!Doctor that contradicts that. Also, that comic makes it sound like the rejection of the name of the Doctor is fairly recent, implying that he was known as the Doctor until not long ago. I think that the idea that Eight’s personality changes, that his morals are worn down and that his actions escalate, until he regenerates into a far more terrifying incarnation, makes perfect sense. It’s not a pleasant thought, but I am not into Doctor Who or anything else for that matter for it to be pleasant.
I’m a huge Eight fan, but to me, he is the Doctor of the EDAs and the audios. His right of existence does not hang on the Time War. I like the idea that he fought in the Time War, but there is nothing here saying he didn’t. Whether or not he pressed the button to destroy Gallifrey at the end is neither here nor there. Even if he didn’t (as we so often point out when regeneration is discussed), he’s still the same man - whatever he did or did not call himself.
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‘I always presumed Lovecraft just made them up. If he knew they were real, he certainly never told me.’
‘You met him?’ Fitz asked, curiously. He knew the author’s name – his mother had once seen him pick up a Lovecraft book in a second- hand shop as a kid and whalloped him, having mistaken the author’s name in the large type for the book’s subject – but he’d never got around to reading any of his work.
‘We corresponded. We shared an interest in ice cream. I was tempted to offer him a quick trip to the eighteenth century, but I decided he’d have hated it. It isn’t my business to destroy anyone’s illusions. Not the harmless ones, anyway.’
"— The Taking of Planet 5 by Simon Bucher-Jones and Mark Clapham, p. 49
The day I first met you, Doctor (for I’m sure you are listening, somewhere, some-when). It was December 1944, a fine day, and the rooftops and lawns of the colleges were covered in a hard white frost. I was to give a lecture on Computable Numbers at St John’s. I had taken the bicycle along in the guard’s van, and cycled up from the station. I took a long route, past Christ Church and the Botanical Gardens, because I knew I would need the exercise after the long and rather stuffy train journey. At first my mind was full of the subject of my lecture, but gradually a magical, freewheeling sense of excitement overcame me. You will say it was all a trick of the mind, or of memory, or of the clear winter sunshine and the blue sky, but even then, in those minutes before I met the Doctor, it was as if a great adventure were beginning.
- The Turing Test by Paul Leonard, p. 4-5
I was rummaging through my old drawings when I found this illustration of when Alan Turing first meets the Doctor, who’s trying to talk to a stone griffin (which he names Timothy). Even if I drew it a few years ago, I’m still rather pleased with it.
"Memories flooded into the Doctor’s mind. Memories of his childhood, of hismother smiling, of his father holding him up to see the stars.
Memories of school, of the Academy, of playing truant to drink with the Shobogans, to visit an old hermit who lived high on a misty mountain.
Memories of public life and of rising high in the ranks of the Time Lords. Suddenly he was in the Council Chamber on Gallifrey, wearing the high-collared orange and scarlet robes of the Prydonian Chapter, his voice raised in anger against his fellow council members.
He was striding down the long marble corridors of the Capitol, still seething with anger. He stood in a vault, deep beneath the Capitol, opening the door of an obsolete, erratically functioning Type Forty TARDIS. He heard the voice of a young girl: ‘Grandfather, wait - I’m coming with you…’"
Memories of school, of the Academy, of playing truant to drink with the Shobogans, to visit an old hermit who lived high on a misty mountain.
Memories of public life and of rising high in the ranks of the Time Lords. Suddenly he was in the Council Chamber on Gallifrey, wearing the high-collared orange and scarlet robes of the Prydonian Chapter, his voice raised in anger against his fellow council members.
He was striding down the long marble corridors of the Capitol, still seething with anger. He stood in a vault, deep beneath the Capitol, opening the door of an obsolete, erratically functioning Type Forty TARDIS. He heard the voice of a young girl: ‘Grandfather, wait - I’m coming with you…’"
— The Eight Doctors - EDA (via rachelbethhines)
